tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post1769799922867899918..comments2023-04-27T07:37:35.853-04:00Comments on . . the.mojo.wire . .: Fan minus the fandomRandall Nicholshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06252840359471581378noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-70702553820089641572010-08-13T01:27:05.708-04:002010-08-13T01:27:05.708-04:00Exactly, PW. I mean, I feel like, as people who ha...Exactly, PW. I mean, I feel like, as people who have a passion for this, we should want new people to discover it, to enjoy it, but so much of the fandom is so negative and abrasive that it becomes sort of impenetrable to outsiders, or when they do penetrate it, they look around and realize they want no part of this culture. <br /><br />And I don't know if your complaint about the casting thing is that far off the mark. I mean, it says a lot about the age range and gender of the people making these casting lists for comic movies, especially when you think that the very same thing was a popular feature in Wizard Magazine over 10 years ago. It just goes to show how insular and stunted so much of things have gotten.Randall Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06252840359471581378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-76843657588762425712010-08-11T11:01:22.574-04:002010-08-11T11:01:22.574-04:00i'm all over comic book and comic book movie w...i'm all over comic book and comic book movie web sites, and the message boards, while i can't stay away from them, are immensely frustrating<br /><br />i think you hit the nail on the head here. i would add, as an unimportant aside, that i really wish we could abolish all the threads where people suggest their lazy casting ideas. apparently Johnny Depp and Mark Hamil are the only actors working today <br /><br />mostly though, i like what i like, OR i'm curious what i'm curious about. nowhere more than music, but often enough in comics and film, can the FANS have the ability to ruin my enjoyment of the thing in question, and that is so unfairpw!https://www.blogger.com/profile/03971170382721575152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-78297568690772031092010-08-08T04:51:40.121-04:002010-08-08T04:51:40.121-04:00I wasn't surprised so much that there was the ...I wasn't surprised so much that there was the immature negativity, and I'll even go so far as to say that I think there's a time and a place for that. What got me is that there was nothing else -- liking anything was an open invitation to be ridiculed and dismissed, and no one wrote about comics they liked, they only wrote about comics which sucked.<br /><br />Now, being a fan I know what goes into buying comics, and how costly it can be, and unless they're just downloading them [and I guess that's possible], what you have is a legion of people with 50-100 dollar a month pull-lists of stuff they do not like, and only read to bad mouth.<br /><br />I expected more diamonds in the dung heap.Randall Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06252840359471581378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-53781110583264104132010-08-07T07:25:50.594-04:002010-08-07T07:25:50.594-04:00I can't believe you were surprised that intern...I can't believe you were surprised that internet message boards contained immature negativity.<br /><br />But then again, as someone who is usually surprised at life's other cruelties, I'm not one to talk.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08573013095129223721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-8019659067559381932010-08-06T23:11:29.924-04:002010-08-06T23:11:29.924-04:00Generally, I'm okay with people complaining ab...Generally, I'm okay with people complaining about things that are bad in real life. I feel like, in the same way someone asks you about your day, and you say how it sucked, that's sort of okay. But I just feel like so much ink, or webspace, or however you want to put it, is devoted to bad things. And of course there are a lot of bad things out there -- it's comics, there are a lot of them, and many of them suck. <br /><br />My thinking is why waste time putting up so many road signs saying "this is awful" when so much is awful, when what we really need is a big sign on things that are good? Or, at the very least, something someone else enjoys so people can look and say "oh, I have similar opinions to that person -- I might want to check out this thing they like."Randall Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06252840359471581378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1582438931556658200.post-50137642481503263062010-08-06T18:48:30.906-04:002010-08-06T18:48:30.906-04:00I have two main thoughts in response to this.
Firs...I have two main thoughts in response to this.<br />First is, that I agree that it is better, more enjoyable, and ultimately more productive to say positive things about the things you love than to bash the things you hate. While I understand sometimes it's fun to really dig into something that's terrible. Zero Punctuation ALWAYS has scathing reviews of video games, for instance. I write some terrible movie reviews from time to time. But mostly, I like to talk about the GOOD parts of movies- even the generic or flat out awful ones.<br /><br />As mentioned, Zero Punctuation ALWAYS has scathing reviews of video games. But they're funny. And that's the reason I occasionally write negative reviews of movies too. Because sometimes those are funnier to read. And if you're like Zero Punctuation, it's okay to only have negative reviews because a) you're paid to review, so there! And b) the reviews are hilarious. But if you're not funny about your mean comments, why bother saying them?<br /><br />That all being said, my second point is this: You said they all had things they hated and nothing they liked. There are forums for webcomics too based entirely on the premise that there are miserable trolls who can't get their nasty comments published on the webcomic victim of choice website, so they'll instead talk about it there. The only think you can do is ignore these miserable shits and let them hate everything. Nothing makes them happy except tearing apart other peoples' accomplishments. In general, that's the way message boards of any fandom tend to be. So you made the right choice and leaving once again.<br /><br /><br />... And come to think of it, I've recently been grumbling to Ian about a mutual friend of ours who is a lot like the people on those message boards you were talking about. He hates everyone and everything and it gets to the point now that I think without hatred, he'd have no personality or identity at all. And it's gotten so bad that we avoid him. It used to be funny when he'd make the occasional remark about something sucking. But now it's just sad, redundant, and pathetic.Cheeborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10550675079000988807noreply@blogger.com